The gall of Rick Joyner

Yesterday, Lee Grady of Charisma Magazine, wrote an editorial titled “The Tragic Scandal of Greasy Grace”.   Today, Rick Joyner replied.

Here are my comments I posted at the charismamag.com website:

Dear Joyner,
You sir, are the one who lacks credibility. You stood on stage with Bentley on June 23rd, 2008 along with other false apostles and prophets and not one of you had the discernment to see that Bentley was living in flagrant sin. Drinking excessively in public, ministering in public with his mistress beside him, telling the world he was happily married – showing off his wife and kids then dumping them weeks later. Not ONE of you so-called “apostles” has one whit of discernment.
Todd deliberately stalled the “restoration process” so he could get his divorce and marry his mistress BEFORE he had to do any repenting. That’s just not unintentional sin – it is deliberate and flagrant.
So before you go threatening Grady with your “public accusations” – take a good hard look at yourself.

The unmitigated gall of Rick Joyner has me fuming! Threatening a fellow Christian in public! Joyner said:

I think you owe Todd, myself, Bill, and Jack apologies for your presumptuous judgments. I think they should be as public as this letter was. If not, I feel that I will have to address this publicly, and I don’t think that is in your best interest.

As well, the tired old accusation of being self-righteous should anyone disagree with you – again quoting Joyner:

I am deeply offended that you would call our work “a travesty.” The Lord had far more grace for sinners than for the self-righteous, who He had no grace for at all. I am personally far more concerned for you than for Todd.

Grady wasn’t being self-righteous at all. He was doing what a true prophet of God should do – point out sin in the camp. This time, the sin is located at Fort Mill, SC.

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4 comments on “The gall of Rick Joyner

  1. Although I don’t believe Grady to be a “prophet” of God or one of God’s apostles, still a great blog post!

    My comments:

    Typical ploy and extortion, i.e. a felony in Florida
    Rick Joyner’s Response to Lee Grady’s Column, “The Tragic Scandal of Greasy Grace” (Rev. Rick Joyner of Morningstar Ministries sent this response on March 12, 2009)

    Found here: http://charismamag.com/index.p…icle/20035

    Rick Joyner wrote:

    “Lee, I think what you call “the Lakeland disaster” would be disputed by multitudes of people who got healed or touched there. If you are such judge of this what gives you the credentials? What moves of God have you led? What have you built? Paul the apostle claimed to have authority for building and for tearing down, but what gives you authority to tear down the work of others is having built something yourself.”

    Typical ploy by Joyner….

    I can’t help imagine that same ploy being used against those who spoke out against Hitler! For example, some might have asked what have you done? Hitler has unified the nation have you? Hitler is bringing jobs have you? Hitler is bringing pride back to our nation, rebuilding our nation, and rebuilding our military! What have you done? All you do is complain about Hitler, but I don’t see YOU doing anything!!!! At least Hitler is trying! What are doing other than whine!!! Hitler ran for office have you ever done so? Perhaps YOU need to shut up and quit whining if all you are going to do is tear down people like our Fuhrer who is trying!

    Well we know where Hitler took the world. Just a feeble attempt to silence the critics, but the critics should never yield to such a ploy.

    Not everyone needs or is required to be a “leader”, “politician”, alleged “faith healer”, alleged “evangelist”, alleged “man of God”, alleged “prophet”, or alleged “apostle” with a following before they have the right or necessary credentials to speak out and question.

    Beside doesn’t Lee Grady have the credentials? He’s an Offical International Coalition Apostle received by the “anointed” Holy Father Wagner! What a joke…

    And this:

    Rick Joyner wrote:

    “I think you owe Todd, myself, Bill, and Jack apologies for your presumptuous judgments. I think they should be as public as this letter was. If not, I feel that I will have to address this publicly, and I don’t think that is in your best interest.”

    Sounds like extortion to me. Extortion is a crime.

    Section 836.05, Florida Statutes, states:

    836.05 Threats; extortion.–Whoever, either verbally or by a written or printed communication, maliciously threatens to accuse another of any crime or offense, or by such communication maliciously threatens an injury to the person, property or reputation of another, or maliciously threatens to expose another to disgrace, or to expose any secret affecting another, or to impute any deformity or lack of chastity to another, with intent thereby to extort money or any pecuniary advantage whatsoever, or with intent to compel the person so threatened, or any other person, to do any act or refrain from doing any act against his or her will, shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

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